Blog on words

The host of the show right off at the start of the shows their curiosity just by the questions. What do words do for us? They were so curious from the story about the man that did not know sound and did not know words. They kept asking the teacher how did she manage to work with the student. And they were so curious to hear about how important words are for everyone. Something that is interesting to me is that sense he did not know words so for this student he did not know that everything had a name so he would just copy whatever anyone was saying. So when he found out that everything had a name his mind was blown. With the host of the show they keep showing their curiosity about words by going to other experimenters that are using the colors of a wall that as a way of direction. So they did an experiment by using a box with all white walls and if you do it with one wall being colored and seeing if they can figure out where something is in the room and tell them where that object is. But they thing that is interesting is that most people can not do it until they are around the age of six. Because that is when they are able to figure things out like an adult. The thing that is interesting to the approach to this question that they did not just ask a question what do words do to you. But instead they did experiments to see how important words are to the normal person by having them do normal tasks and see if they are able to do them. And that interest me because they found out that without contact clues words become use less to everyone and words are just words that have no meaning.

Progress Report – Big D

Writing as a recursive Process is  skill that I’m starting to understand and figure out. By looking at my papers and noticing that either a sentence is to long or short and rearranging it. So that the flow of the paper is more smooth. Also I’ve been able to notice with the help of my peers reading my paper that moving paragraphs round isn’t always a bad thing. By flipping one paragraph to a different place it made it so that not only did the paper flow but it helped get the of the paper out more clearly. Looking back on the Literacy Narrative and seeing all of the personal experiences. I gave me the idea that to try to throw one in on this paper and it ended up being a great conclusion to the paper.

With the category “Integrate Ideas with Those of Others” this paper is pretty much based off the ideas of others. Referring to the facts of Gee and Delpit and how they believe that a discourse is learned and used in the world.

Born to play by your own rules

James Paul Gee and Lisa Delpit, are two highly intelligent people who have helped move the discussion of discourse forward. They have also written some noteworthy things, from Gee’s book “Literacy, Discourse, and Linguistics Introduction” to Delpit’s paper on “The Politics of Teaching Literate Discourse”. The average person will probably never hear about these people in their lifetime. But for those people in a college writing class or are those who conducting a study on discourse or literacy, these people are going to appear often. Gee talks about discourse as an “identity kit”( 7) designed to teach how to do something and how to look in different areas. He later discusses discourse in two different ways, “primary discourse” and “secondary discourse”.

Primary discourse, as Gee explains it, “is the one we first use to make sense of the world and interact with others” (page 7). It teaches us to interact with ourselves and others around us. Secondary discourse, on the other hand, involves being given something and learning from that. Gee simply explains it as, “Each of these social institutions commands and demands one or more discourses and we acquire these fluently to the extent that we are given access to these institutions and are allowed apprenticeships within them” (page 8).

Delpit thoughts on discourse are the complete opposite of Gee. Delpit believes that there are two major problems with Gee’s ideas on discourse. The first is that, “Gee’s notion that people who have not been born into dominant discourse will find it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to acquire such a discourse” (page 546). The second is “the aspect of Gee’s work that will find troubling suggest that an individual who is born into one discourse, it with one set of values may experience major conflicts when acquiring another discourse with another set of values” (page 546-547). Delpit believes even if you weren’t born into primary discourse doesn’t mean that you won’t acquire one.

Delpit and Gee disagree on how to acquire discourse. Both explain in their research ways that discourse is acquired and whether it is done so through interactions with people or from a classroom setting. Gee argues that acquiring a discourse is from “social practices through scaffold and supported interaction with people who have already mastered the Discourse” (page 7), and that a discourse is not mastered from someones typical instruction. However, Delpit believes that though a discourse can be acquired in a classroom setting, there will be those who believe you can’t be taught. She explains that, “If teachers were to adopt both of the premises suggested by Gee’s work, not only would they view the acquisition of a new discourse in a classroom impossible to achieve, but they might also the goal of acquiring a discourse questionable at best” (page 547). Both Gee and Delpit believe that a discourse can be acquired, while Gee supports the idea that it isn’t mastered but that you learn it from someone who has mastered it. Delpit believes that a discourse can be learned so long as you are willing to learn, the opposite what Gee is saying.

Delpit argues that, “Gee’s notion that people who have not been born into dominant discourse will find it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to acquire such a discourse” (page 546). I would agree with this because Gee seems to be saying that if you have nothing, then you are going to born with nothing. Looking at the movie “Bend it Like Beckham”, Jess has to experience this with her family. At first her mother doesn’t like the idea of her playing soccer because she is showing too much skin and is spending too much time on the pitch. But at the end of the movie, Jess realizes that she can do both by finding her discourse and finding the balance. The balance not only comes from the her, it also comes from the family accepting what Jess wants to do.

Gee’s description of a discourse as an identity kit is appropriate because people sometimes look at someone and place limitations on them. But that’s not the case with everyone. An example of this is clear from this movie. When Jess first goes to practice with Juls and she is talking to the coach, she thinks that she is a joke. She didn’t arrive prepared with all the proper equipment and she was dressed in the wrong attire. Then she goes out, demonstrates her ability, and surprises her coach. This example truly shows that you can’t judge people by what they look like because their true identity will show.

Gee explains that primary discourse “is the one we first use to make sense of the world and interact with others” (page 7). This simple sentence has a greater meaning. By taking things and breaking it down into smaller things instead of taking the whole thing head on, it helps someone get a general idea of someone and how they interact. A good example from this can also be found in the movie “Bend it like Beckham” when the father gives Jess permission to leave her sister’s wedding early so that she can go to the soccer match because he knows how much it means to her. Her father also knows that this is the best way that she will interact with people and be herself. The way that this connects with what Gee says is because Jess’s father is making the connection with Jess and interacting with her for the first time since she started playing; he thought she was wasting her time. He also knows that futbol is really important to her and gives her permission to do what she believes is right.

Although Gee and Delpit disagree on how a discourse can be learned, it doesn’t mean that they disagree that learning a discourse is important. Gee’s argument is that a discourse can only be learned from being born with it and that you are unable to learn it from someone who has mastered it is ridiculous. Delpit believes that a discourse can be learned from someone who has mastered it even if you aren’t born with it. I agree with Delpit. Yes, if you aren’t born with something it’s going to take hard work to learn something but it is possible. Anything is possible if you set your mind to it.

Looking back to my life and how soccer is a huge part of my life I can relate to a time in my life that I has seem player that didn’t belong on the field and after a season with a good coach and player that supported him he surprised me. During the last couple years of high school soccer we get new freshmen every year and as a freshmen you’re going to start off scared and not ready to play but they end up surprising me. My senior year we had this sophmore that took my spot at center back and he really didn’t belong there but after a few games and some help from me he added up becoming a huge part of the team and I was able to help take over the rest of the field and help places that really needed it.

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Now coming to freshmen year of college, things are going great. I love the college, I’ve meet some great people, I like all of classes, and the food is pretty bad like I expected. Only really big thing that surprised me is my english class. It’s that I don’t it, or that I don’t like the teacher both of those are great. It’s more of the surprise of how college writing is so much different from high school writing. In high school every teacher drills into that all colleges want are five paragraph papers that follow a pattern and that’s it. But man is that wrong, college wants more of papers that are creative and that follow your pattern of writing and how well you can write. I know it’s not really much but it was definitely a surprise.

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In my first school that I was in I probably had the worse teaching experience anyone could have. For my first few years of school the teacher kind of pushed me away and ignored me. So I never really got any kind of schooling from kindergarten to first grade. It’s not that I was smart or anything was the fact that I didn’t do as well as the other kids and the kids that did well in class the teach would give them more attention and not focus on the kids falling behind. Now that sounds terrible for the normal person but honestly it was perfect for me because my parents realized it and got me out of the school and get me to a place that I could real succeed .

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When it comes to all my learning my hardest years of learning was definitely my middle school years of learning. It’s not much that I didn’t like school or that I didn’t care it’s because I was extremely sick through those years of my schooling. From sixth to eighth grade I ended up missing forty plus days a year. Yes I understand that that is a lot of school to miss and I honestly don’t know I made it through those years of school. But I did and I ended up doing it on my own and I did it well I passed every year with honor roll grades. Not the only thing that is more impressive that I really had no teach help. They would send me the notes that I missed and I would have to do all the work on my own.

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Throughout my senior year of high school I managed to get the learning that I missed throughout first grade to fourth grade. Now you might be asking yourself what do you mean? Did you not got to school for those grades? Well the answer is yes I did. But I never got the proper learning that I should have gotten and that’s because of my learning disabilities. Going back to senior year I started a program called WADE. It’s basically a learning program where you go and learn every basic reading skill. From learning sounds of letters to learning how to break up words. I can honestly say that I was so surprised how much I didn’t know.

Looking On and Looking Again

The day I was told that I was dyslexic was not a huge surprise to me. Instead it a shock for both of my parents. For years I’ve know that I was dyslexic. Letters, numbers, etc have always jumped around for me and I didn’t know why. So I told my brother and looked it up. Now at that moment I was surprised but not the day I was diagnosed with it. With the dyslexia it’s made my learning difficult but not impossible. Look at me now I’m a college student. If you asked me when I was younger I honestly never thought I would have been able to pass middle school or even high school. They seemed liked thoughts to high to ever come true.